Re: Training and collars

[Macen Shinsato <macen@foxinternet.net>]

Hi Renee,

Thinking has changed so much on collars since
we had our first Golden in obedience classes
12 years ago!  Then, we were told to buy a flat
link choke chain and taught to use it correctly--i.e.
a short, sharp tug and quick release.  The flat link
chain seemed to cause less hair loss for our dog's
long hair.  Prong collars were only advised for
out of control and potentially dangerous animals.

I was appalled to find current trainers recommending
prong collars to everyone when we started Bogey's
training.  I understand the difficulty of using a choke
chain without choking the dog--but it seems training
classes are mostly for the owners anyway--isn't this
trainable?  The prong collars just look awful!

We found a fourth option which worked well for Bogey.
It is a collar made of wide fabric which acts like a choke
chain in its action but is not as harsh or potentially
damaging to the dog's throat.  We were able to get it
at our tiny neighborhood pet store and I've seen them at
large stores like Petco but don't remember what they're
called.  Bogey has always been a really calm guy--not
a lot of pulling on lead.  So this collar was really great
for him.  I'm not sure how it would work for a more
rambunctious dog.  Just thought you might like to know
of one more option.  It will be really great to hear what
all the trainers on the list think about training collars.

Good luck with those classes.  Lori

"J. Renee Brooks" wrote:

> start her basic obedience class.  We had the first orientation class
> without the dogs where they went over many things I already knew, but
> they brought up collars.  Leigh and I have discussed this issue with
> Gina before, but I would like to share with you what "Best Friends
> Obedience School" had to say and get your input because I am still
> struggling with what to do.