Re: MonzaMan's bout with ?-first aide tips

[Gina Heitz <brier@oregonsbest.com>]

Lyn wrote:

> >>He was sick last night.  Ringing wet around the neck and face by the 
> time I got him outside at 4am.  He's never got me up in the middle of the 
> night - so something was awry when he didn't stop whining.  He was 
> salivating more than usual last night right before bed, but I thought it 
> might have been from his odd positioning, belly up against the 
> wall.  Anyway, this morning he peed with bubbling force and then had 
> green-grey soup poop.  His second BM after eating breakfast was formed, 
> but slimy.<<
>


Lyn,

So sorry to hear you and Monza had a night from "hell"  glad he is feeling 
better today.   Sounds to me like he did get into something.  Don't know 
what your weather is like way over there but here we are sweltering with 
temps in the high 90's and high humidity.  All the dogs are not as 
"chipper" and less energetic.  Haus (being a black dog) and TRiX being a 
puppy are happy to eat in the morning but not so enthralled in the evening 
even though they are for the most part in the house with the AC 
going.  Their poops have been off and I am sure it's the fast change in the 
weather.  We went form 60 to 90 over night.  With last night it not cooling 
down much so today with temps expected to hit into the high 90's it's going 
to be another "dog day afternoon"....

So everyone knows, dogs only have sweat glands in the pads of their feet 
and in their mouth.  So if a dog is wringing wet around his neck it is from 
profuse salivation and not sweating so to speak.  They may be over heated 
or, have eaten something, or under some kind of stress to cause them to 
salivate so much.  Finding out why is important.  As Lyn did, she deduced 
he must have just munched on something that caused him to become ill.

Haus for example gets car sick :-(  and when we take him on rides he always 
salivates, this is stress salivation. Leigh do you have any words on 
this?  <smile>

  Rocky foams when I give him his pills because of the bitter taste.  This 
is more like what Monza was doing.  Though it sounds like Monza ate what 
ever and it made him sick a bit later...

Got a call from Abigail last night that she too was not doing so hot, 
lethargic, bad poops just not her normal puppy self.  We deduced that it is 
hot hot hot and that she had eaten more than her fair share of plums fallen 
from the neighbors tree in the past couple of days.  Plums are a laxative.

Heat and eating the great finds in the yard can cause tummy upset and the 
reaction can be very violent and quite scary.  If you know what ever it was 
that they got ahold of was not toxic then prudent care at home is in order 
If you don't know what the situation is of course consult a vet.  However 
here is the protocol for situations of eating things in the event you don't 
think vet care is needed.

First and foremost keep the puppy quiet and either warm or cool which ever 
is appropriate.

Withhold water for minimum 4 hours and offer a couple ice cubes AFTER the 4 
hours.  Start back slow on water.  If water is being tolerated no vomiting 
your ok.  If not go to the vet.  On food:  Withhold for minimum 8 hours 12 
is best.  Offer small amounts of food a couple table spoons at a time of 
boiled rice and hamburger.  Boil the burger, drain and rise off the 
fats.  Ratio would be 2 rice to 1 burger.

For heat related issues:  No vomiting, give small amounts of water and cool 
off body with cool not ice water,  Soak feet and belly or entire body is 
you wish.

Normal temp for a dog is 101 to 102.  Rule of thumb is 103 can wait till 
morning.  105 seek care now.  Remember though stress and ambient air temps 
can and do affect body temp.  Over activity in warm wether can bring a temp 
up, even thrashing in a warm enclosed crate can cause a temp to go up.

  Stressful trips to vet's things like that can as well elevate a 
temp.  You have got to be able to access if your pet is stressed.   If temp 
is up due to stress or heat, cool the dog and re check temp.  If it comes 
down don't be concerned.  Remove the stress and re check again.  Believe it 
or not a lot of these situations can be avoided by making sure your puppy 
is well socialized and comfortable with travel etc...

Recap hand outs in the puppy manual for tips on keeping a dog cool etc.

How to take a temp:  Make sure your thermometer is shook down ;-) and lube 
with Vaseline or something similar.  Insert into the rectum and keep in 
place 2 minutes.

Take two Valum call me in the morning <LOL>

Gina


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