Re: ....Questions.....

[Ilene Cook <asorosgd@ameritech.net>]

Ok Karin,
 Another lesson in doggie lingo. Cookies are dog treats. Any kind.
Biscuits, or Jerky's or how about good nutritious carrots. Heck, my dogs
"know" they get a cookie before bed. So, I have to tell you I have been
desperate, out of biscuits, out of carrots. I have used Kellogg's Corn
Flakes for gosh sakes. You do not argue with a dog that is racing you to
it's crate because it is cookie time. Now, you wanna talk guilt???

                               Ilene 

> "Karin M. Krchnak" wrote:
> 
> When you give treats or cookies, what do you mean?  I made a trip to
> Petsmart today to start getting nylabones, etc. but wasn't sure what
> to get as far as "treats".  Growing up, our dogs always got MilkBones
> but not sure if there is something healthier.  Gina emailed at one
> point about carrots.  I did get edible nylabone carrots tonight.  Is
> that good?  And a nylabone frisbee!
> 
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: owner-brierpups@fast.cs.utah.edu
>      [mailto:owner-brierpups@fast.cs.utah.edu]On Behalf Of Gina
>      Heitz
>      Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:28 PM
>      To: brierpups@fast.cs.utah.edu
>      Subject: Re: ....Questions.....
> 
>     >   Even with a dog walker, we're talking 4-5 hours in a
>     >  crate.  This seems a bit long except at night.  Am I
>     >  realistic or is this guilt speaking??
> 
>      Guilt!  Pure unadulterated GUILT!  What is the difference if
>      a puppy sleeps under your bed for 4 to 5 hours or in her
>      crate?  [Karin, see I said her] :-)))
> 
>     >   Okay a question for night time crating.  While the pup is
>     >  young should I set an alarm to wake up in the night to
>     >  take her out?  I keep reading that you shouldn't take the
>     >  pup out when she's crying - it teaches her cry = out.  But
>     >  how do you know if it's an I gotta pee cry or an I want
>     >  out cry?
> 
>      Let her cry it out, if she messes, the mess will still be
>      there when you are ready to deal with it after you are
>      rested...  I know that sounds awful and not to say I have
>      not gotten up in the night to potty a dog I have, but not
>      anything like the reports I hear so often from other people
>      with new puppies, even people on this list, you know who you
>      are no names needed:-) .  Really think about it, if you get
>      up to a mess what difference does it make if  you are
>      cleaning up that mess at 3:00AM or 6:00 AM?  When a puppy
>      has an accident in it's crate they usually will smear it all
>      over requiring a bath, and the crate to be cleaned up,
>      requiring you to be fully awake...  Get my point?  Also once
>      happened it's very rare for it to happen a second time if
>      they do have to sit in it.  They don't like it...  By
>      setting an alarm you are teaching your dog to do what?
> 
>      With urination, every time you take a puppy out of it's
>      crate it's going to need to urinate.  For that matter any
>      time you wake a puppy it's going to urinate regardless of
>      where it's sleeping.  So don't disturb the puppy...  No eye
>      contact, just say, quiet and roll over and forget about
>      her.  She is safe in her crate and you need your rest.  If
>      you look at them you are a goner... :-))
> 
>      One thing to remember about dogs is that they learn by
>      repetition and goldens are very quick to learn, both good
>      and bad habits.  I have had very few crate accidents in my
>      life and my puppies often sleep a good 8 to 10 hours at
>      night or at least they are quiet for at least that long and
>      dry and clean...
> 
>      Here is what I do:  Water comes up at 7:00 PM we all potty
>      just before 10:00 PM and retire to our respective crates,
>      puppies and dogs each get a cookie and the lights go out,
>      end of subject.  I sleep my pup's next to my side of the bed
>      as George can sleep through ANYTHING and I can not.  If it's
>      1:00 AM and pup is whining I just gently rock the crate and
>      say quiet.  9 out of 10 times this works.  The first week I
>      absolutely am as diligent as one can be with the routine, no
>      exceptions. After that the pup usually has learned, and in
>      all honesty very rarely very rarely have we had an accident
>      in the crate.  AmEx for example has never had one, Lucy had
>      1, DiTTo who doesn't sleep in a crate any longer at 7 months
>      old never had one and has been out of her crate for months
>      and holds it all night.  TRiX has never had an accident but
>      slept in her crate for the first year as she would potty in
>      the night in the house if allowed to be free.  Each dog is
>      an individual yes but approaching this form the point of
>      view that you are training and with training come
>      corrections is the best way to go about this in my
>      opinion...
> 
>      G :-)