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Hi all,

I got this on my Pacific-Northwest BARF list today and
thought it might be O.K. to pass on as it has been a current
topic for us.  I don't mean to scare anyone but our dog Coco
had very similar symptoms minus the bleeding, thank heaven.
She is fine now but we are much more serious about mushroom
patrol.  Take care all.

Lori

From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net>
Subject: Pls Read-Just rec'd this

Forwarded message: VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL PET OWNERS

My 6 year old Sheltie, Mendi, had a normal day, I fed her and her sister
at
5pm, and at 5:30 let them outside.  Fifteen minutes later they came in,
and
Mendi started throwing up violently, one after the other.  Her breathing
was
hard and labored.  I noticed her ruff was full of saliva, and it was
just
rolling out of
her mouth.  I called her vet, just then realizing she couldn't swallow.
The
vet told me to pick up my keys and my dog and get her to the Emergency
Hospital, now.  Before the end of the call, she was in shock.  At the
hospital, they started IV's and X-rays for foreign objects, which were
negative.  The blood test results indicated a toxin, and her liver was
shutting down, with all other body functions failing as well.  Toxins
and
poisons like arsenic, etc. had all been ruled out.  Mendi by now was
vomiting
blood and had blood gushing from her rectum.  I went home to check the
yard,
the weather had changed from warm rains of the last few days to sleet.
I
found nothing in the yard.  Mendi continued losing blood, and blood test

results
became more grim.  My husband in a conference call with me, the hospital
and
her vet, said what about mushrooms?  I rushed home to look, and found
one
small mushroom that was now frozen.  The vet began calling Unversity
docs,
CDC, and poison control.  They all said yes, the way her case presented,
it
was very possibly caused by poison mushrooms.  They made recommendations
for
treatment.  For the next 76 hours, there was no improvement, and she
continued to vomit blood and her intestines were still bleeding out from
the
rectum.  The vet continued to consult all over, and was on-line to VIN
network.  A vet in Maryland recommended she start on Milk Thistle (a
herb),
and SAME, an antioxidant.  At that point there were no more options.
She was
started on those, and within 24 hours showed some slight improvement in
one
test.  The next 48 hours were touch and go, then finally, after 6 days,
she
lifted her head, although she still did not respond to my voice.  On the

seventh day she suddenly got better, and they kept her on IV's and
treatment.
Late that night I was able to bring her home, and now, two days later,
she
is eating and going out although she is weak.
Now...the mushrooms.  They were the kind that shoots up suddenly in your

grass after rains.  Being over-protective, I had for many years checked
for
them at least twice a day, and removed them.  The day it happened was
very
stormy, and  I hadn't checked.  It seems that 80% of the time, those
mushrooms are very poisonous.  The ordeal was a total
nightmare....please
warn other pet owners.

   Sandy..May I have your permission to re: post this to the various
collie
   lists I am on??? Darlene

Yes please feel free to....I have gotten full permission for the author.

Sandy
 
 



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Topics in this digest:

      1. Pls Read-Just rec'd this
           From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net>
      2. Re: Twas the night b4
           From: dmczone@aol.com
      3. What SAME is/used with Milk Thistle for mushroom poisoning
           From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net>
      4. OT: Britts getting lost
           From: "Carol Goshorn" <CarolGQ@earthlink.net>


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Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 01:26:04 -0800
   From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net>
Subject: Pls Read-Just rec'd this

Forwarded message: VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL PET OWNERS

My 6 year old Sheltie, Mendi, had a normal day, I fed her and her sister
at
5pm, and at 5:30 let them outside.  Fifteen minutes later they came in,
and
Mendi started throwing up violently, one after the other.  Her breathing
was
hard and labored.  I noticed her ruff was full of saliva, and it was
just
rolling out of
her mouth.  I called her vet, just then realizing she couldn't swallow.
The
vet told me to pick up my keys and my dog and get her to the Emergency
Hospital, now.  Before the end of the call, she was in shock.  At the
hospital, they started IV's and X-rays for foreign objects, which were
negative.  The blood test results indicated a toxin, and her liver was
shutting down, with all other body functions failing as well.  Toxins
and
poisons like arsenic, etc. had all been ruled out.  Mendi by now was
vomiting
blood and had blood gushing from her rectum.  I went home to check the
yard,
the weather had changed from warm rains of the last few days to sleet.
I
found nothing in the yard.  Mendi continued losing blood, and blood test

results
became more grim.  My husband in a conference call with me, the hospital
and
her vet, said what about mushrooms?  I rushed home to look, and found
one
small mushroom that was now frozen.  The vet began calling Unversity
docs,
CDC, and poison control.  They all said yes, the way her case presented,
it
was very possibly caused by poison mushrooms.  They made recommendations
for
treatment.  For the next 76 hours, there was no improvement, and she
continued to vomit blood and her intestines were still bleeding out from
the
rectum.  The vet continued to consult all over, and was on-line to VIN
network.  A vet in Maryland recommended she start on Milk Thistle (a
herb),
and SAME, an antioxidant.  At that point there were no more options.
She was
started on those, and within 24 hours showed some slight improvement in
one
test.  The next 48 hours were touch and go, then finally, after 6 days,
she
lifted her head, although she still did not respond to my voice.  On the

seventh day she suddenly got better, and they kept her on IV's and
treatment.
Late that night I was able to bring her home, and now, two days later,
she
is eating and going out although she is weak.
Now...the mushrooms.  They were the kind that shoots up suddenly in your

grass after rains.  Being over-protective, I had for many years checked
for
them at least twice a day, and removed them.  The day it happened was
very
stormy, and  I hadn't checked.  It seems that 80% of the time, those
mushrooms are very poisonous.  The ordeal was a total
nightmare....please
warn other pet owners.

   Sandy..May I have your permission to re: post this to the various
collie
   lists I am on??? Darlene

Yes please feel free to....I have gotten full permission for the author.

Sandy



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Message: 2
   Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:45:52 EST
   From: dmczone@aol.com
Subject: Re: Twas the night b4

That was wonderful!  I will copy and take to the local animal shelter!!


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Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:47:11 -0800
   From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net>
Subject: What SAME is/used with Milk Thistle for mushroom poisoning

S-adenosyl-methionine:  aka, SAMe.  An amino acid synthesized in the 
(human) body.  Evidence for SAMe includes antidepressant; prevent and 
reverse liver disease; treatment of fibromyalgia, CFS, & osteoarthritis; 
part of the process of synthesizing the neurotransmitter acetylcholine in 
the brain.
More info available by doing a search at Life extension Foundation. 
http://www.lef.org/



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Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 22:28:22 -0800
   From: "Carol Goshorn" <CarolGQ@earthlink.net>
Subject: OT: Britts getting lost

Just thought I'd put my 2 cents here because I have some experience.  When I
was a teen, my mom and I raised Brittanys.  My dad and I and 3 other people
and 2 other dogs went pheasant hunting in Southwestern Michigan.  We were
doing fine until Rosie took out through a ravine after a bird.  She never
came back.  We searched for more than a week and the only conclusion we came
to was that she ran as far as the highway (2 miles away) and someone picked
her up and became the new owner of a bitch that had produced a number of
field champions.
Carol in Oregon

Mommie to:
Aussie: (BD 12/05/89) Aussie/Springer mix, hearing, spayed female. "Where's
my turkey neck?"
Sugar: (BD 02/12/99) White/Check hearing Boxer, spayed female, natural ears,
docked tail. "But mine is all gone so Cookie should share with me. Whine,
whine."
Cookie: (BD 03/17/00) White/Check hearing Boxer, spayed female, natural
ears, docked tail.  "Nothing doing, GRRRRRRR!"
Blue: (BD 8/24/00) White/Check deaf Boxer, female, natural ears. "Hey! Just
cause you're bigger doesn't mean you can push me around. Bark! Bark!"




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