I got this on my Pacific-Northwest BARF list today and
thought it might be O.K. to pass on as it has been a current
topic for us. I don't mean to scare anyone but our dog Coco
had very similar symptoms minus the bleeding, thank heaven.
She is fine now but we are much more serious about mushroom
patrol. Take care all.
Lori
From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net>
Subject: Pls Read-Just rec'd this
Forwarded message: VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL PET OWNERS
My 6 year old Sheltie, Mendi, had a normal day, I fed her and her
sister
at
5pm, and at 5:30 let them outside. Fifteen minutes later they
came in,
and
Mendi started throwing up violently, one after the other.
Her breathing
was
hard and labored. I noticed her ruff was full of saliva, and
it was
just
rolling out of
her mouth. I called her vet, just then realizing she couldn't
swallow.
The
vet told me to pick up my keys and my dog and get her to the Emergency
Hospital, now. Before the end of the call, she was in shock.
At the
hospital, they started IV's and X-rays for foreign objects, which
were
negative. The blood test results indicated a toxin, and her
liver was
shutting down, with all other body functions failing as well.
Toxins
and
poisons like arsenic, etc. had all been ruled out. Mendi by
now was
vomiting
blood and had blood gushing from her rectum. I went home to
check the
yard,
the weather had changed from warm rains of the last few days to
sleet.
I
found nothing in the yard. Mendi continued losing blood, and
blood test
results
became more grim. My husband in a conference call with me,
the hospital
and
her vet, said what about mushrooms? I rushed home to look,
and found
one
small mushroom that was now frozen. The vet began calling
Unversity
docs,
CDC, and poison control. They all said yes, the way her case
presented,
it
was very possibly caused by poison mushrooms. They made recommendations
for
treatment. For the next 76 hours, there was no improvement,
and she
continued to vomit blood and her intestines were still bleeding
out from
the
rectum. The vet continued to consult all over, and was on-line
to VIN
network. A vet in Maryland recommended she start on Milk Thistle
(a
herb),
and SAME, an antioxidant. At that point there were no more
options.
She was
started on those, and within 24 hours showed some slight improvement
in
one
test. The next 48 hours were touch and go, then finally, after
6 days,
she
lifted her head, although she still did not respond to my voice.
On the
seventh day she suddenly got better, and they kept her on IV's and
treatment.
Late that night I was able to bring her home, and now, two days
later,
she
is eating and going out although she is weak.
Now...the mushrooms. They were the kind that shoots up suddenly
in your
grass after rains. Being over-protective, I had for many years
checked
for
them at least twice a day, and removed them. The day it happened
was
very
stormy, and I hadn't checked. It seems that 80% of the
time, those
mushrooms are very poisonous. The ordeal was a total
nightmare....please
warn other pet owners.
Sandy..May I have your permission to re: post this to
the various
collie
lists I am on??? Darlene
Yes please feel free to....I have gotten full permission for the author.
Sandy
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What SAME is/used with Milk Thistle for mushroom poisoning From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net> 4. OT: Britts getting lost From: "Carol Goshorn" <CarolGQ@earthlink.net> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 01:26:04 -0800 From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net> Subject: Pls Read-Just rec'd this Forwarded message: VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL PET OWNERS My 6 year old Sheltie, Mendi, had a normal day, I fed her and her sister at 5pm, and at 5:30 let them outside. Fifteen minutes later they came in, and Mendi started throwing up violently, one after the other. Her breathing was hard and labored. I noticed her ruff was full of saliva, and it was just rolling out of her mouth. I called her vet, just then realizing she couldn't swallow. The vet told me to pick up my keys and my dog and get her to the Emergency Hospital, now. Before the end of the call, she was in shock. At the hospital, they started IV's and X-rays for foreign objects, which were negative. The blood test results indicated a toxin, and her liver was shutting down, with all other body functions failing as well. Toxins and poisons like arsenic, etc. had all been ruled out. Mendi by now was vomiting blood and had blood gushing from her rectum. I went home to check the yard, the weather had changed from warm rains of the last few days to sleet. I found nothing in the yard. Mendi continued losing blood, and blood test results became more grim. My husband in a conference call with me, the hospital and her vet, said what about mushrooms? I rushed home to look, and found one small mushroom that was now frozen. The vet began calling Unversity docs, CDC, and poison control. They all said yes, the way her case presented, it was very possibly caused by poison mushrooms. They made recommendations for treatment. For the next 76 hours, there was no improvement, and she continued to vomit blood and her intestines were still bleeding out from the rectum. The vet continued to consult all over, and was on-line to VIN network. A vet in Maryland recommended she start on Milk Thistle (a herb), and SAME, an antioxidant. At that point there were no more options. She was started on those, and within 24 hours showed some slight improvement in one test. The next 48 hours were touch and go, then finally, after 6 days, she lifted her head, although she still did not respond to my voice. On the seventh day she suddenly got better, and they kept her on IV's and treatment. Late that night I was able to bring her home, and now, two days later, she is eating and going out although she is weak. Now...the mushrooms. They were the kind that shoots up suddenly in your grass after rains. Being over-protective, I had for many years checked for them at least twice a day, and removed them. The day it happened was very stormy, and I hadn't checked. It seems that 80% of the time, those mushrooms are very poisonous. The ordeal was a total nightmare....please warn other pet owners. Sandy..May I have your permission to re: post this to the various collie lists I am on??? Darlene Yes please feel free to....I have gotten full permission for the author. Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:45:52 EST From: dmczone@aol.com Subject: Re: Twas the night b4 That was wonderful! I will copy and take to the local animal shelter!! ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:47:11 -0800 From: "Linda Lathrop" <llathrop@uswest.net> Subject: What SAME is/used with Milk Thistle for mushroom poisoning S-adenosyl-methionine: aka, SAMe. An amino acid synthesized in the (human) body. Evidence for SAMe includes antidepressant; prevent and reverse liver disease; treatment of fibromyalgia, CFS, & osteoarthritis; part of the process of synthesizing the neurotransmitter acetylcholine in the brain. More info available by doing a search at Life extension Foundation. http://www.lef.org/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 22:28:22 -0800 From: "Carol Goshorn" <CarolGQ@earthlink.net> Subject: OT: Britts getting lost Just thought I'd put my 2 cents here because I have some experience. When I was a teen, my mom and I raised Brittanys. My dad and I and 3 other people and 2 other dogs went pheasant hunting in Southwestern Michigan. We were doing fine until Rosie took out through a ravine after a bird. She never came back. We searched for more than a week and the only conclusion we came to was that she ran as far as the highway (2 miles away) and someone picked her up and became the new owner of a bitch that had produced a number of field champions. Carol in Oregon Mommie to: Aussie: (BD 12/05/89) Aussie/Springer mix, hearing, spayed female. "Where's my turkey neck?" Sugar: (BD 02/12/99) White/Check hearing Boxer, spayed female, natural ears, docked tail. "But mine is all gone so Cookie should share with me. Whine, whine." Cookie: (BD 03/17/00) White/Check hearing Boxer, spayed female, natural ears, docked tail. "Nothing doing, GRRRRRRR!" Blue: (BD 8/24/00) White/Check deaf Boxer, female, natural ears. "Hey! Just cause you're bigger doesn't mean you can push me around. Bark! Bark!" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________