Re: Salmon-experience

["Deb & Boyd McFail" <bdmcfail@alaska.net>]

This discussion on salmon is as fascinating as I knew it would be! 

I'm SO glad that it's come about because judging from this experience on
your end of the world versus my end of the world tells me several things and
one of those things is that I now feel confident that there IS a difference
between our salmon and your Pacific Northwest Salmon Gina.

We have too too many dogs up here who eat fresh raw salmon with no problems,
nothing like what you've described has ever been reported and we have dogs
making off with freshly caught salmon all the time! Typical scenario here is
dad and son with dog are fishing alongside the stream. Son pulls in whonking
big salmon and then gets distracted and dog makes off with fish to the
underbrush to enjoy his meal. Father and son gritch at dog and then continue
fishing and dog continues to lurk happily for the next fish day after day
after day. Even here by the house the neighborhood dogs line up behind the
kids at the creek hoping for a fish one of the kids has taken their eyes off
of for a second.

I can't imagine anyone out in the bush, subsistance lifestyle, that can
freeze the way your article describes needing to freeze the fish, and most
if not all of the bush dogs ARE fed either normal household freezer temp raw
salmon, IF they're lucky enough to have a freezer in camp, or partially
dried salmon stolen from the fish racks at fish camp. Offal is definitely
tossed casually to the dogs when the fish are being cleaned and prepared for
drying.

I will check this out further, have no fear, and will report back. I'm on a
mission now (g)

Debs (who is running madly back and forth to the valley trying to get titles
and insurance straight on the car her 27 year old hooligan human child just
bought)

!!@@!! this is a visual picture of what I look like today, lolol.

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>From: Gina Heitz <brier@oregonsbest.com>
>To: brierpups@fast.cs.utah.edu
>Subject: Salmon-experience
>Date: Fri, Jun 30, 2000, 6:51 AM
>

> Deb wrote:
>
>> >>They freeze it completely first which destroys the flukes! <<
>
> Deb and All,
>
> Yes freezing does kill many things including flukes in fish but it's the
> temps and time in freezer that does the trick.  I don't remember which
> Billinghurst book it's in but he talks about freezing meat/fish and proper
> temp and "aging". I understand you can not freeze with any home freezer
> sufficiently.
>
> Personally salmon poisoning scares the be gee's out of me.  I was at the
> vet (imagine that), there was s dog in for treatment for this and I have to
> tell you, it was not pretty.  I know this dog so know what he looks like
> when he is well.  He was not well....  Don't know if he made it but I do
> know they were really concerned at the clinic that he might not.  He was
> hooked up to monitors and had a IV drip going and a tech in attendance to
> physically monitor him.  We were in the treatment room where most of my
> dogs end up, we skip the normal exam rooms usually. <LOL>
>
> This dog was not fed salmon but rather must have gotten into it ie:  some
> one didn't clean up well enough after cleaning fish. :-(  Point of this
> post is to say while I personally do feed a raw diet and do feed my dogs
> fish I would never attempt to process fish myself by freezer.  My guys eat
> canned mackerel for the most part.  I don't worry about the bones in the
> canned fish as they are just mush and I do whirl them in my processor with
> veggies and eggs.
>
> Those who do enjoy fishing or outings where there is fishing please be very
> cautious with you babies and fish.  Like the article says even just the
> blood from the two fishes is enough to cause a problem.
>
> Gina
>